x800 all in wonder tv tuner working

I upgraded from XP with relatively few issues, but my TV tuner refuses to work. I have an All-in-Wonder x800 and an HDTV wonder. I've since taken out the HDTV and I'm trying to get the tuner on the video card recognized. I've tried the vista drivers, reinstalling the encoder (MCE edition) all without success. I was once to the point of having Media Center recognize that there was a tuner, but it wouldn't find anything on scanning. Anyone get one of these working?

I have a 9700P AIW and still no support.
Mitch -- "Don't pee an my leg then tell me it's raining"
"Prometheus Bound" wrote in message

I upgraded from XP with relatively few issues, but my TV tuner refuses to work. I have an All-in-Wonder x800 and an HDTV wonder. I've since taken out the HDTV and I'm trying to get the tuner on the video card recognized. I've tried the vista drivers, reinstalling the encoder (MCE edition) all without success. I was once to the point of having Media Center recognize that there was a tuner, but it wouldn't find anything on scanning. Anyone get one of these working?

If you get a solution to this problem please POST it. I need my TV!
"Prometheus Bound" wrote:

I upgraded from XP with relatively few issues, but my TV tuner refuses to work. I have an All-in-Wonder x800 and an HDTV wonder. I've since taken out the HDTV and I'm trying to get the tuner on the video card recognized. I've tried the vista drivers, reinstalling the encoder (MCE edition) all without success. I was once to the point of having Media Center recognize that there was a tuner, but it wouldn't find anything on scanning. Anyone get one of these working?

Part of the problem is that ATI may provide drivers for XP MCE, but it is NOT and never will be an approved tuner. It does not have the required hardware encoder. Vista may enforce this more stringently.
Tom "troyboy" wrote in message

If you get a solution to this problem please POST it. I need my TV!
"Prometheus Bound" wrote:
I upgraded from XP with relatively few issues, but my TV tuner refuses to work. I have an All-in-Wonder x800 and an HDTV wonder. I've since taken out the HDTV and I'm trying to get the tuner on the video card recognized. I've tried the vista drivers, reinstalling the encoder (MCE edition) all without success. I was once to the point of having Media Center recognize that there was a tuner, but it wouldn't find anything on scanning. Anyone get one of these working?

"Tom Scales" wrote in message

Part of the problem is that ATI may provide drivers for XP MCE, but it is NOT and never will be an approved tuner. It does not have the required hardware encoder. Vista may enforce this more stringently.
Tom

The issue is strictly an ATI driver issue. The AIW series, while not supported in MCE 2004, *is* supported in MCE 2005, so your *never will be* is bogus right there. The requirement for a hardware decoder is strictly an MCE 2004 and earlier issue.
The HDTV Wonder is recognized by Vista (which includes drivers for it); however, up until beta 2, ATSC-only cards such as the HDTV Wonder would not work standalone in either MCE or Vista (NTSC support was required). However, at least build 5456 (the first post-beta 2 Vista build) obviates that requirement. While the AIW series still lacks support, the issue is on ATI, not Microsoft, to solve, and it has nothing to do with the lack of a hardware encoding solution (as the support for the HDTV Wonder proves).
I have an AIW 9700 Pro and HDTV Wonder. While my AIW is not working in 5456, the HDTV side of my HDTV Wonder certainly does.
Christopher L. Estep

Christopher,
You have it backwards The AIW software drivers was developed approved by MS for MCE 2004 and ATI requied that a HT CPU be used in order to get the CPU utiliazation down to the level that MS would approve. With MCE 2005 and the capability for multiple tuner MS for the first time requied a hardware encoder in order to obtain approal for the MCE 2005 Logo program. ATI upgraded their AIW software encoder so that it would work with MCE 2005 and first released it in about May of 2005 along with a release of their MMC software. MS never approved this version although ATI themselves support it. AFAIK there has be nowanouncement by ATI that they will again upgraded their AIW software encoder in order that it work with Vista "Christopher L. Estep" wrote in message

"Tom Scales" wrote in message Part of the problem is that ATI may provide drivers for XP MCE, but it is NOT and never will be an approved tuner. It does not have the required hardware encoder. Vista may enforce this more stringently.
Tom
The issue is strictly an ATI driver issue. The AIW series, while not supported in MCE 2004, *is* supported in MCE 2005, so your *never will be* is bogus right there. The requirement for a hardware decoder is strictly an MCE 2004 and earlier issue.
The HDTV Wonder is recognized by Vista (which includes drivers for it); however, up until beta 2, ATSC-only cards such as the HDTV Wonder would not work standalone in either MCE or Vista (NTSC support was required). However, at least build 5456 (the first post-beta 2 Vista build) obviates that requirement. While the AIW series still lacks support, the issue is on ATI, not Microsoft, to solve, and it has nothing to do with the lack of a hardware encoding solution (as the support for the HDTV Wonder proves).
I have an AIW 9700 Pro and HDTV Wonder. While my AIW is not working in 5456, the HDTV side of my HDTV Wonder certainly does.
Christopher L. Estep

Christopher,
He's right. ATI has gotten it to work, but it is NOT a supported tuner for MCE. The key word there is SUPPORTED.
The AIW does not have a hardware decoder and therefore will never get an MS certification for either XP or Vista.
Didn't say it might not work, but it is a lousy solution when you can buy a nice Hauppauge PVR-150 for $60 on sale.
Tom "JW" wrote in message

Christopher,
You have it backwards The AIW software drivers was developed approved by MS for MCE 2004 and ATI requied that a HT CPU be used in order to get the CPU utiliazation down to the level that MS would approve. With MCE 2005 and the capability for multiple tuner MS for the first time requied a hardware encoder in order to obtain approal for the MCE 2005 Logo program. ATI upgraded their AIW software encoder so that it would work with MCE 2005 and first released it in about May of 2005 along with a release of their MMC software. MS never approved this version although ATI themselves support it. AFAIK there has be nowanouncement by ATI that they will again upgraded their AIW software encoder in order that it work with Vista "Christopher L. Estep" wrote in message
"Tom Scales" wrote in message Part of the problem is that ATI may provide drivers for XP MCE, but it is NOT and never will be an approved tuner. It does not have the required hardware encoder. Vista may enforce this more stringently.
Tom
The issue is strictly an ATI driver issue. The AIW series, while not supported in MCE 2004, *is* supported in MCE 2005, so your *never will be* is bogus right there. The requirement for a hardware decoder is strictly an MCE 2004 and earlier issue.
The HDTV Wonder is recognized by Vista (which includes drivers for it); however, up until beta 2, ATSC-only cards such as the HDTV Wonder would not work standalone in either MCE or Vista (NTSC support was required). However, at least build 5456 (the first post-beta 2 Vista build) obviates that requirement. While the AIW series still lacks support, the issue is on ATI, not Microsoft, to solve, and it has nothing to do with the lack of a hardware encoding solution (as the support for the HDTV Wonder proves).
I have an AIW 9700 Pro and HDTV Wonder. While my AIW is not working in 5456, the HDTV side of my HDTV Wonder certainly does.
Christopher L. Estep